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[Hi guys. You know what Tim is not going to do? Talk about Bruce or Steph or Wally or Conner. Well maybe a little later. But right now he's kind of pissed and feeling all those angry clingy feelings teenagers feel when someone else shows interest in someone they've known longer.]

On June 13th, Bourne showed us what his inmate, David could do. He showed us that David had been impersonating him. He promised us it wouldn't happen again, and that David would be punished accordingly.

What he didn't tell us was that he made David morph into a rat, and took away his ability to change back. He didn't tell us that he was effectively torturing his inmate. [And Tim is actually pretty furious at this point, and for those who recognize it, there is more than a little bit of Batman mode going on here.]

I'm reluctant to bring this up now, since I'm sure we're all tired of arguing about the obvious, but either we all agree to see only to our own inmates, or we step in when another warden sees fit to torture his own.

[Private to Bourne]

If you ever think about doing that to him again, remember that I'm here. [Full on Batman voice. It's a scary thing. Maybe not for Bourne, but this is not teenage Tim Drake he's dealing with anymore.]

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Superboy left a few days ago. [Because damn it, even if he doesn't want to talk about it to anyone at all ever, Conner deserves some God damned recognition, even here. At least Tim sounds cool when he says it; he's fiiiiine, really. :|]

[Private to David, added later]

Hey. Think you can stop by my room to talk?

Comments

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[kingfor-aday.livejournal.com]

Are you ser... of course you are.

How do you know this? Is there anything to show it?

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[peektuttut]

David told me. He wasn't lying. [Not even a question of it, here. Panic attacks are telling like that.]

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[batmanschmatman]

How long did he keep him like that?

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[peektuttut]

Length doesn't matter. He forced David to relive something he never should have experienced in the first place.

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[yourunichase]

What the fucking fuck?

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[peektuttut]

Torture. Unacceptable behavior.

[cisskabob]

[OH HEY, GUESS WHO DIDN'T KNOW. And who will ignore the whole rat thing because wtf Kon. Not that she's being clear about it, of course.]

...When?

[peektuttut]

[WAY TO FOCUS CISSIE C:]

A few days ago is my best guess.

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[buywithme.livejournal.com]

[Oh Jesus fuck that is actually really scary. Prefect doesn't care about Bourne's side of the story, there is no explanation that would make this all right, so he'll skip straight to solution suggestions:]

Comrade, I think that's something that it's important we actually respond too.

I take it you've spoken to David about this? Because approaching him to find out if he would be willing to stay paired with Bourne should probably be a priority. I know we can't force the Admiral to un-pair people, but we would be able to unofficially assign someone else to see to his needs and support him, if he was willing.

Other than that, entirely outside of whatever is decided with regards to punishing Bourne, we should establish some kind of system for monitoring his inmates welfare. For instance, having a warden meet with them weekly, to see if they have had any problems, and to make sure that they've not been physically injured or... interfered with. [aka: turned into improper things :c]

Purely in the interests of protecting David, I'd suggest that as a minimum response that we should take.

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[rass-bestie.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

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[peektuttut]

David told me. And I agree; we have to be held accountable for our actions, and he's gotten away with this for more than a month. David doesn't seem to think that repairing him's a possibility. He's looking at it as Bourne completely controlling his life.

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[toldastory]

Agreed. This is appalling.

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[kingfor-aday.livejournal.com]

I hate to jump in as a fourth party, but you're right.

I was considering suggesting someone else checked in on him on a daily basis, but preferably someone he knew and trusted, as opposed to someone random.

[onefullmoony.livejournal.com]

...Someone used transfiguration as punishment? That's torture. Is the boy alright?

[peektuttut]

Would you be?

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[paradoxlol]

If that's the whole story... How the hell are they still paired?

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[peektuttut]

When has the Admiral looked after the best interests of anybody on this boat? He leaves it to us to take care of, and no one knew.

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[puzzleprince.livejournal.com]

[Extra sympathy from Eddie, because Eddie knows what it's like to be at someones mercy so thoroughly.]

Goodness. Prefect has the right idea.

What's the extent of the damage?

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[peektuttut]

His warden forced him to morph a rat and took away his ability to turn back. Take a guess at the damage. [Tim's slightly leery of giving away everything. He's pretty positive David will be wrathful about this. :\]

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[timesbureaucrat]

I have some questions on this morphing process before I pass any judgement, since I, like most here, know nothing about how it works. [Narvin is a little bit bitter about all the knee-jerk horror to telepathy that's been going around, since psychic interrogation is normal CIA procedure for him. He thinks the humans are reacting in fear to things they don't get. Because of his history, he knows he can't respond to those, but he'll respond to this.]

First, I'd like to understand how Bourne made David morph. Second, I'd like it clearly explained how it's torture. I'm not denying that it might be, but since this morphing is something that David does on his own accord fairly frequently, I'd like to understand why this is different, beyond the fact that it was imposed on him. (As, after all, I'm sure no one would object if a warden ordered an inmate who already runs a mile a day to...say...run five miles. Ordering an inmate to run fifty miles would be an entirely different story, but I don't know enough about this process to say whether this is comparable to that.)

In short, I see the emotive word "torture" being tossed about rather casually, and if Bourne *is* torturing his inmate that's obviously a problem. But I for one don't know enough about what actually happened and how this affects David physically and mentally to know whether or not that's an accurate description.

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[peektuttut]

I want you to go back and look at this post. Bourne turned a gun on his inmate and made him morph to show us what he could do. I think if the choice is die or morph, he's going to morph.

[And a pause, because this means pretty much throwing David's life out for all and sundry to see. But it's a short pause. Protecting him is better.] The way it works [Tim's. Done some reading. :\ Sorry David.] is he can morph into animals they've touched, for two hours. After two hours, they can't change back. Before coming to the barge, he was tricked into morphing a rat, and trapped somewhere he couldn't change back. It had to have been in his file, and Bourne recreated it. It's not a question of fair and balanced punishment, it's taking a specific and scarring moment from his inmate's history and inflicting it on him again.

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[notiaraincluded.livejournal.com]

So...aside from the fact that I assume this guy didn't want to be a rat, how is this an example of torture rather than a punishment? I mean, he apparently had his Warden overpowered and held hostage while abusing a power he had to impersonate that same Warden.

Seems to me that taking that same abused power and using it as a sort of punishment makes perfect sense.

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[peektuttut]

Check out what I just told Narvin. Makes more sense than explaining myself every time.

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[most_feared]

Respecting the fact that I haven't seen David's file and inmates often exaggerate their reactions to punishments, I do know from my experience with most shape-shifting technologies that being trapped in an unfamiliar form for an indefinite period of time can be terrifying for whoever is trapped in the form.

Have you talked to Bourne directly about it yet? Told him that you thought it was inappropriate and got his reasons?

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[peektuttut]

I'm waiting to hear from him. [Just. Gonna let him assume or not that he contacted Bourne before this. >>]

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[givemeafight.livejournal.com]

Hey, have you seen Steph in the last few days?

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[peektuttut]

[effffff.]

...No. She's gone.

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[lotoftrouble.livejournal.com]

I honestly don't see what's so bad about this. And, if I may ask, how did you know that Bourne made that boy stay in rat form for a month? Because if David himself told you this, I'm sorry to inform you that occasionally inmates lie. I myself have done it plenty of times.

Warden Filter - J'ACCUSE!

[buywithme.livejournal.com]

You wouldn't understand! You turn into other things for fun!

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[brokenweapon.livejournal.com]

[Taken aback, demanding:] Are you an idiot?

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[peektuttut]

Is that seriously all you have to say? You're on the filter, Bourne. If you want to explain yourself, do it where they can see.

Private~

[grayatonement]

You're upset.

[He's trying. But he really still cares about himself.]

Private~

[peektuttut]

[sigh Sylar. Tim is in rawr mode, but he's trying to dial back. Not doing too well.]

Yeah.

Warden filter. - EFF YOU LJ.

[some-kinda-hero.livejournal.com]

You do know that Hoffman, Slick, and David attacked Bourne in the CES in order for the whole morphing into Jason thing to go down, right? He stole his identity! It's the last thing Jason has left.

Warden filter - GOD SERIOUSLY

[peektuttut]

If he can't handle it, he shouldn't be a warden, end of story. Making your inmate relive a trauma is not a wardening technique, it's torture. It's using the information the Admiral gives us in the worst possible way.

Public; since his filters are still gone.

[sixthanimorph.livejournal.com]

Your room? ... Yeah, I guess. Which room is it?

Private again!

[peektuttut]

Level one, room eighteen. See you soon.